Prado Grande Tyres

Here goes the Nissan/Toyota, Engel/Waeco type debate again.
Think I might do something different with tyres. :o)
So.
BFG AT are rubbish, so are Coopers, only use other makes such as Goodyear, Kumho, Simex, Toyo, Dunlop, Bridgestone, Yokohama etc, anything else but BFG and Coopers will work fine.

Oh, by the way, I might be a bit biased in my view because of previous experiences with different makes of tyres. :o).

So, oldpop, please explain your experience with Coopers and BFG AT.
(Seriously trying NOT to have a dig at you, but it's hard typing with one arm behind my back.)

regards in a heart felt way,

John C - aka oldplodder.

Hi oldpop

The only problem with BFG's is they don't provide a 245/70-17 in Aust. Nor does any other AT or mud name brand tyre.

I used BFG AT's on the previous 4wd for 13 years and was happy with them. I would consider using them again if they made available a 245/70-17 but if you believe what you read, then the BFG AT's are not as got as they were 10 years ago.

I don't mind giving the Coopers a go - cheers Anthony

If you choose Coopers, stay on the bitumen!

Please do.
Thanks

Hi Anthony

I also would be interested in how you go with these tyres.

George

Gazand & George

The tyre shop has said they need 3 weeks to order in the 17by8inch steel rims to fit the 245/70-17's. So I wont know how they go until about the end of july.

Regarding the various Cooper commets, it is interesting that some people really don't like the Cooper tyre. I would be interested to know if they had formed their opinion based on using Coopers themselves or from talking with other people ?

I'm heading off to Oodnadata, around Alice and then the Plenty Hwy talking 2 months. I guess I will have a better idea on how Cooper ST's perform for me, for how I drive. - cheers Anthony

deserter,

I was eager to get a LT tyre for the extra strenght and there aren't any in the 265/65/R17 format. The 245/70/R17 is almost identical in terms of it roll diameter and the Cooper and Pirelli ATR Scorpion are the only tyres I could find find that were LT.

BFG don't make a 265/65/R17. You would need to put on 265/70/R17. Heaps of people do, but I just felt it was better to avoid putting a larger tyre on when there was an alternative.

Cheers
Gary

LT and 10 ply - really they are only 10 ply in name only.
If you look at the side wall, they are only 2 ply.

But it comes from the old days of having 10, 12 , 16 ply construction for truck tyres in the conventional ply design. This ply rating was a load rating based upon the number of plies.
So in a radial LT construction, '10 ply' really indicates a heavier load rating (generally 112 to 116, and possibly up to 120), still only has 2 plies, but may have slighter thicker rubber in the walls and maybe slightly heaver plies to get the load rating.
Whereas 6 ply radial tyres might have a load rating of 90 to 100.

..... What sort of sidewall ply strength do they have ?

Very average, it appears that the Coopers suffer more failures than most other brands, my own experience included. As someone said earlier in this post, they are good for keeping the rims of the ground!
After removing the surviving tyres from the vehicle & fitting them to the camper trailer, they failed on the next Outback trip.
Oh, and the warranty ..... ha ha ha ha ha!

Yep - I gotta admit. I have been very surprised at the number of A/T brand tyres that are only rated 2 ply sidewall.

Deserter,
Every tyre on the market only has 2 or 3 plies in the sidewall - thats the way they are made. No such thing as a 10ply tyre - they are a 10ply "rating".

Hi Froilan. Was thinking about the 265/70/R17 for my prado. What's the low down on the "black box" and where did you get it.

hi brenton, i got it from a company in sydney called automotive instruments. looking at your member name, it looks like you are SA based. i am sydney based. there must be a similar mob in SA. i asked the local toyota dealer and they recommended the company.

the larger tyre means the speedo shows a lower speed than what it actually is. don't know how the box works but it must adjust the speedo on the fly.

the box works well and is hidden under the dashboard. can't even tell it is there. i got speedo tested by other means and it seems accurate.